I have always argued that there should
be a rigid wall of separation between a creative work and the creator.
Not that the creator of a popular work should be exempt from
responsibility for herm own behavior, but that the work itself stands on
its own.
The Huxtable
family as portrayed on TV is a creative work that stands alone and apart
from any of the foibles or felonies of its creators and actors
involved. Performers, creators, and artists are human. If they can
transcend their personal beliefs and weaknesses to create something of
worth more power to them. It might be argued that the work may be a
personal expiation of shame.
beliefnet
Atheists like most arbitrary groups
tend to reflect the dominant mores of the society in which they are
embedded. I suspect that male feminists are as unusual in atheist
groups as in any other that doesn't have misogyny as a central group
tenet.
Atheists
generally have weak belief systems, and therefore might be influenced
more by advocacy groups with a useful message. Many won't listen, even
weak belief systems are hard to counter, but I suspect that feminism
will generally find fertile ground in the rapidly growing atheist and
secular part of the overall society.
And you're basing this on survey and polling data, right? Not just on anectdote and making shit up? Fematheist
False
dichotomy. In any event survey and polling data finds whatever the
constructor of the survey or poll wants to find. See any partisan
political poll. Did you ever hear of or write a "push poll?" If not
why not? You claim to be a social scientist, you must have been taught
about them in something like Surveys 101.
Unbiased
observation of convention activity, social functions, and comments of
members of a study group are much more reliable than any poll or survey
unless you have access to the actual questions asked in the poll, the
demographic of the polling subjects, and the bias of the poll
constructor. Got any? Or are all your observations and data biased by
feminist activism?
I am sorry, are you suggesting that because some companies polls do push calling that gives you the right to just make bullshit
up on these boards and pass it off as reality? Is that SERIOUSLY what
your argument is? Attacking bad polling instead of defending or evening
acknowleding the bullshit you just MADE UP?
I would call that a fundy evasion tactic there, JC.Fematheist
You
can call it anything you like from your social science ivory tower. I
am not talking about company or think tank push polls, I am talking
about the biased polls and surveys from proper respected academic
departments in economics and social science, two areas of interest for
me. I do read past the popular articles in the news to the published
data and read the protocols and the questions themselves. Some good,
some garbage.
In
any event I have been living atheism and feminism for many more decades than
you have been alive and I am not a convert to either. Before you sling
your projection of fundy on me you should at least identify the
fundamentalism I allegedly identify with. What is it? A convert's
fundamentalist anti-theist beliefs? A feminist activist's
fundamentalism that all men are pricks?
I am a trained scientist and scholar although not working in either
field I am able to observe behavior from a scientific POV generally
without bias or belief based conceptual blocks. It is a fact that I am a
feminist man living in a male dominated world, and an atheist in a
Christian dominated culture, but I do observe without bias how both of
those positions of privilege affect me and the others around me.
Shouting
about making bullshit up does not make the assertion true. One must in
academia or in the real world, take the bullshit apart and demonstrate
that it is wrong. So far you have done neither.
To be fair to Fematheist she is promoting a feminist atheist channel on YouTube (Search Kristi Winters) that is well worth subscribing to if you are into Video. I skip to the references to see whether the transcript is worth reading.
